So I used to think, gee, well, you know, he draws faster than I can write, but I I wrote and mailed it to him. Q: And how did you come up with his name? I lived with him for a while and it didn't work out so well. [34], Last edited on 14 February 2023, at 20:06, "A Conversation with Artist-Writer Larry Lieber", +1922&hl=en&ei=6-OpTp3_Nqnx0gHox7ynDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDgQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false 5, "Marvel Worldwide, Inc. et al. LARRY LIEBER: You mean the in the story parts? (break in testimony) Marvel legend Stan Lee rightfully gets credit when discussing the most important creators at Marvel, alongside Steve Ditko, Joe Simon Jack Kirby, and others. Q: That was my next question. Marvel Comics founder and longtime publisher Martin Goodman had left Marvel in 1972, having sold the company in 1968, and launched this new company in June 1974 to go head-to-head with Marvel and DC Comics. l/lieber_larry. Comics are different from novels in that it's a visual medium, so you have to be know that. Q: Can you tell me how you came into possession specifically of these drawings? But they, if they just wanted you to make corrections, they might say, in later years anyway, I think they would have said, "Well, put in a voucher," if they wanted to be nice, "Put in a voucher for production work. Please share on social media! Larry Lieber. It didn't appeal to me. So I couldn't do that, I couldn't work. The only, and this isn't interviewed, but, no, no, no, no, no. family name. Larry Lee is the younger brother of Stan Lee and was born on October 26th, 1931. Q: What did you come up with? sail to Europe on the USS United States with his family . But it didn't last too long and but I don't remember when these things were. LARRY LIEBER: Years later. I used to Stan liked the way I made up names, civilian names, and I used to, from my years of doing these, what do you call it, these fantasy books, monster books, and I used to look at the back of dictionary, Miriam Webster had biographical names and geographical, so I would look in towns and if I liked the town, I might put it. He would give it written to me. 1930s - living) 0 references . [8], In a 2010 interview Lieber described how he collaborated with Lee on The Amazing Spider-Man strip: "I get a full script. Q: And just to follow up on something you said, you mentioned a letterer, what was the job of the letterer? And he told me the plot, you know, somehow I got synopsis, and I and I wrote it. What was the form it came in? I made that, which people know about. Marvel? Larry has testified in both Federal and State courts on the subjects of computer . LARRY LIEBER: They I was in the office, the Marvel office. Stan said, 'I'm trying to make up a character,' and he gave me the plot, and he said, 'Why don't you write the story? Grant Morrison has named a few upcoming projects as part of their new Xanaduum Presents publishing line on Substack, for 2023. These were all scripts in advance [that Kirby would illustrate]. Edward L. K Stan was writing it and after a while The Hulk wasnt doing well and Stan decided to give it up, or give up his part. And as time went on, he had fewer to make. Q: And your brother is? Join Facebook to connect with Larry Lieber and others you may know. MR. TOBEROFF: Go ahead. Bryan Hitch has been pencilling, inking and tweeting a double page splash of The Authority, after James Gunn's news what could it be for? [6] Lee elsewhere described that move to a two-story, three-bedroom home at 1084 West Broadway as occurring in 1949,[7] when Larry would have been 17 or 18. Now, I knew nothing about black-and-white comics, right? Q: When you received were you always paid by check from Marvel? LARRY LIEBER: I got the synopsis, the plot from Stan, and I wrote the first script of Thor. Q: Who came up with the name Thor, the hero name? Q: And when you say "the script," that's what we were talking about before that told panel by panel? I used to get names out of the back of the dictionary, from the biographical section where you have foreign names, Russian, this and that. Q: The way when we talked about the first script for Iron Man and the first script for Thor and the first script for Ant-Man, were those Marvel style? It didn't happen to me usually, except one instance where I had to do things and I wasn't paid for it. Walt Disney Co. has targeted several legendary comic book artists with lawsuits seeking to decisively establish that it owns the rights to Marvel superheroes they helped create. NY Death Cert # 024701. I felt I would have more control over it. LARRY LIEBER: No. He also wrote the newspaper Spider-Man comic strip for years. I try to finish it, but sometimes I can't, so he just sees roughs, but that is good enough for him to get the idea if I captured the scene right. Lawrence D. Lieber[1] (/libr/; born October 26, 1931)[2] is an American comic book artist and writer best known as co-creator of the Marvel Comics superheroes Iron Man, Thor, and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and drawing the Marvel Western Rawhide Kid; and for illustrating the newspaper comic strip The Amazing Spider-Man from 1986 to September 2018. LARRY LIEBER: I I'm not certain. [1], Lieber also penciled The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #4-5 (1967-1968), the latter introducing in flashback the late parents of protagonist Peter Parker; co-wrote and co-penciled the first solo Doctor Doom feature story, in Marvel Super-Heroes #20 (May 1969);[11] and did occasional other work including, for Magazine Management's men's magazines, several stories of the bawdy "nudie-cutie" comedy feature "Pussycat". The award was presented July 25, 2008, during the 2008 Will Eisner Comic Industry Awards ceremony at Comic-Con International. Suite 620 Beverly Hills, CA 90210-4608 USA: Hobbies: Writing stories: After that, after the Hulk, Stan left. I learned well enough that I was able to give a course some years later for him. [11] Lieber recalled, The template below (Block quote) is being considered for deletion. Family (1) So I don't really know. And now this is the part where I ask you same thing he asked you: If you can just give a pause so if I have to jump in with an objection. Q: Moving on to your a new subject career at Marvel, you testified that you began doing freelance work for Marvel in approximately June 1958; is that correct? For another series, starring the Human Torch from the Fantastic Four, Lieber co-created the longstanding supervillain the Wizard in Strange Tales #102 (Nov. 1962). I think I wanted a little more freedom. 0 references. Q: Do you have any recollection that it stopped at some point? As Lieber explained, Lee, wasn't always the most patient person and I had problems [writing] the dialogue and he said, "Why did you say that? Find out about Stan Lee's family tree, family history, ancestry, ancestors, genealogy, relationships and affairs! Q: So not in the period 1958 to 1965? Q: Did they did Marvel provide you with any paid vacation? [25] Lee then offered him the editorship of Marvel UK, the New York City-based imprint that produced black-and-white reprint comics for the UK market, as well as new stories of the superhero Captain Britain, created by writer Chris Claremont and penciler Herb Trimpe. Q: And you say, "They were full scripts and I didn't think of Jack when I wrote it at all. I did my freelance work there. , Larry Lieber, Jerry Siegel , Robert Bernstein . Larry Lieber is Stan Lee's younger brother and wrote Marvel books in the sixties such as Iron Man, Thor and Rawhide Kid. Rachel (Lieber) Friedlender 01 Jan 1912 . I don't know which came first, but I've only heard it recently in the last year or so, once from you using it to me in a conversation, and then I I looked up the case out of curiosity on the Internet and they were talking about it and they mentioned it as being an important thing or was it work for hire or not. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Were the scripts that you wrote for Iron Man, Ant-Man and Thor, were those Marvel style? His office accepts new patients. 3: Randy's New Obsession? LARRY LIEBER: Oh, I didn't I'm sorry. I remember in the early years seeing it. Q: And where did you get the name Uru hammer? He continues to pencil the Spider-Man daily strip as of 2014. Yes. LARRY LIEBER: What's that? I was very young and I had a couple of jobs. Q: Have you scotch-taped them together? The artist made the change after a reader complained the cut was too old-fashioned. He said, and I repeat, he said, "I read your letters and I can teach you what you need." Q: Did you see any artwork on Thor before you wrote the script? Abraham Riesman's new biography of Stan Lee takes readers to Romania, the homeland of Lee's ancestors, and to the small New York apartment of Lee's brother, Larry Lieber, for an at times . Q: Okay. It was the latter half of the 1960s when I became infatuated with Marvel Comics, among the favorites was Larry's Rawhide Kid. He was putting out color comics, and he was also going to put out black-and-white comics like Warren and Marvel. Let me start again. Joan Lieber. LARRY LIEBER: Yes. LARRY LIEBER: I sent it to the artist who yeah. They had one son: Stanley Martin Lieber. These were all scripts in advance [that Kirby would illustrate]. Elizabeth "Sissy" LieberNEWARK: A Funeral Mass for Elizabeth "Sissy" Lieber, 67, of Newark, will be held at St. Francis de Sales Catholic Church, 10:30 A.M., Monday, July 24, 2017 with Fr. [4], Lee wrote in his autobiography that when Larry was 15, the boys' mother died and Lieber went to live with his brother and his sister-in-law, Joan, prompting the trio's move to Woodmere, New York, on Long Island. Being the son of a Hell-Lord, Daimon Hellstrom became a Lord of Hell himself, drawing power from the Hell dimension. [11], In 1951, he enlisted[8] in the U.S. Air Force, beginning four years of military service. You say the characters? "I was drawing, but I was slow. And as time went on, he had fewer to make."[14]. Q: And what was printed on the back of the check? LARRY LIEBER: No. My only experience was in the color comics. He scripted and occasionally also drew the odd Western or Sgt. Did you have any involvement in The Rawhide Kid? I didn't think about it at all. So he hired somebody and then the next week when I came back to him he said, "Larry, you know something, you're no good, but you're better than these other guys". [8], In 1980 and 1981, concurrent with the Hulk strip, Lieber contributed some degree of penciling on the daily and Sunday comic strip The Amazing Spider-Man until Fred Kida took over as regular penciler. Stan Lee's father was of Romanian descent. LARRY LIEBER: No. . LARRY LIEBER: Yes. both New York City and Indianapolis. LARRY LIEBER: I really don't. Larry Lieber is the author of Captain Britain (3.48 avg rating, 46 ratings, 13 reviews, published 2011), Tales to Astonish #13 (3.31 avg rating, 29 ratin. And I also came up with his hammer. LARRY LIEBER: Well, either I sent it to the person. [33], Lieber was a recipient of the San Diego Comic-Con International's 2003 Inkpot Awards. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah, that would be and I think that was called the Marvel style. I did not get paid as much as Stan, you know, his rate. Read more. MR. TOBEROFF: Thank you. "[8], At 17, Lieber became a messenger for The New York Times and also found work at the Times Square studio of Sam Furber, a letterer whose work included movie posters. LARRY LIEBER: Writing on the back, yes. Larry D. Lieber [1] ( / libr /; born October 26, 1931) [2] is an American comic book artist and writer. I used to get names out of the back of the dictionary, from the biographical section where you have foreign names, Russian, this and that. "[32] He retired from pencilling the strip in July 2018. "[12] He again drew for his brother, editor Stan Lee, at the 1950s forerunner of Marvel Comics, known generally as Atlas Comics, though whether on staff or freelance is uncertain. At that time it was called Timely Comics and he owned it, Martin Goodman. Q: When you did free when you did freelance work between 1958 and 1964, you did not have a written contract, correct? LARRY LIEBER: No. I didn't want to give a light tone to it. And the script that you wrote for Iron Man, was that a full script with the panel breakdown? [22] Lieber wrote the first nine Ant-Man stories (following the character's non-costumed introduction months earlier) in Tales to Astonish #35-43 (Sept. 1962 - May 1963) before veteran Ernie Hart did five issues, followed by Lee taking over. In 2008, he was one of two recipients of that year's Bill Finger Award, which annually honors one living and one deceased comics creator. He was very easy, he was showing me. Since I knew how to draw, I'd think, 'Oh, this shot will have a guy coming this way this shot will have a guy looking down on him,' and later I'd sit at the typewriter and type it up. Q: Did you ever work on the comic Thor? Home My Books LARRY LIEBER: I don't recall the exact words, but the gist of it was that I was giving up all rights to it, that the work, you know, now is with the company and and I don't remember the exact wording, but I think it was something "giving up your rights" or "all . They tried somebody else and it didn't work out and they offered it to me and I started doing it and I've been doing it for 20 years now it'll be. MR. TOBEROFF: Objection to form. Stan Lee. According to Disney, Larry Lieber, the brother of late Marvel editor and publisher Stan Lee, and the heirs of the other artists served notices on the company indicating they were terminating Marvel Serving during the Korean War, he spent two of those years stationed at Okinawa,[4] after having done his boot-camp training at the since-defunct Sampson Air Force Base, near the Finger Lakes region of New York State. And what what did he provide you with or what did he ask you to do? [11] This included creating the names of their respective alter egos: Don Blake, Tony Stark, and Henry Pym. Q: And who asked you to write the first script for Iron Man? Q: And did all of the ideas for stories come from Stan Lee or was there any other way you would get ideas? LARRY LIEBER: No. Alta Ann (Lieber) Troxel 11 Sep 1934 Jennings, Decatur County, Kansas, USA - 24 Mar 2019 managed by Larry Fisher last edited 13 May 2021. Q: Actually, I said "correct," so your "They needed superhero-reprint covers, and I could do them somewhat in Kirby's style. [8], 1950s[edit] After returning from the service, Lieber attended Manhattan's Art Students League. Q: Okay. LARRY LIEBER: Yeah. I had been living with relatives and I was going to the Art Students League studying I wanted to leave, so I left. MR. TOBEROFF: "Getting back to the writing aspect"? Q: The "he" when you said "he"? LARRY LIEBER: And once I tried, because I couldn't get work from Marvel and I sent some samples of my not original artwork because I didn't have it, but I sent some comic books over to DC through a friend of mine, Frank Giacoia, who had worked for them, they knew him. [15], Lieber's earliest, tentatively confirmed pre-superhero Marvel script is for the six-page Don Heck-illustrated "I Am the Beast-Man" in Strange Tales #77 (Oct. 1960), and his first confirmed is the 13-page "I Led the Strange Search for Manoo", penciled by Kirby and inked by Dick Ayers, in Amazing Adventures #2 (July 1961). LARRY LIEBER: Yes. Tudor City had a park, and when it was nice I'd sit there and break the story down picture by picture. As Lieber recalled, "I kind of liked it; it was short. Devoted son of Issie and Marsha Lieber, and son-in-law of Jeannette and Rejean Gagne . Again, either I just made it up or I felt it was a name that would fit a guy who was very, very rich and a lady you know, I wanted I thought it sounded distinguished and wealthy or something. Lieber is best known for scripting the first appearances of the Marvel characters Iron Man, Thor, and Ant-Man; for his long stint both writing and . My only experience was in the color comics. Was there anything, just to be clear so for the record He remembered writers from the past. [18] I needed someone to write the new feature, which would hopefully be Marvel's fourth winner in our little superhero sweepstakes. August 06, 2007. LARRY LIEBER: I would grow to the office with it. I didn't want to give a light tone to it. That was the way I interpreted it anyway. 2. Q: Okay. I didn't, you know, and I didn't know what it was. He is the younger brother of Marvel Comics ' writer, editor, and publisher Stan Lee . [1], Lieber also penciled The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #4-5 (1967-1968), the latter introducing in flashback the late parents of protagonist Peter Parker; co-wrote and co-penciled the first solo Doctor Doom feature story, in Marvel Super-Heroes #20 (May 1969);[11] and did occasional other work including, for Magazine Management's men's magazines, several stories of the bawdy "nudie-cutie" comedy feature "Pussycat". Q: Let's talk about The Rawhide Kid. Now, onto the deposition of Larry Lieber: LARRY LIEBER: I I know I was doing, sometime back, I did The Hulk newspaper strip. He said, "Write this," and, you know, sometimes I would write, and if it was weekend, I wouldn't wait until Monday to bring it into the office to give it to Stan, but I remember going over to the West Side, the main post office at night and mailing it. (At this point there was a break where testimony was taken 'off the record' at the requests of Marvels lawyer. He recalled in 1999 he had written some or all of these stories himself, "because I remember Stan was saying to me, 'You write romances really well. Wikipedia (15 entries) edit. I don't recall. That started out with my brother writing it and me drawing it, penciling it, and it didn't do well and he finally said I could write it, and I wrote that for a while. 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