Actually: for thoe who think you can merely fill out the form and not be called, that's a lie! Look up the original data at Pew Research. No thanks, poster 188. Hence, you have answered the only question required by the constitution and you might have even increased the possibility for more representatives! Who are these people and why are they telling me I am obligated by law to provide my personal information to some one or some entity I don't know. They must have found it because I heard no more but neither did I get an apology. I will give the information to those who really need it to improve my neighborhood, city, county, etc. Last year I was hounded by these people and they are back I am so glad I did not answer or call or contact them I cannot believe this information is relevant for city planningthe person above said it best. A concerned citizen. Ct. 524,and it cannot be too often repeatedthat the principles that embody the essence of constitutional liberty and security forbid all invasions on the part of government and its employees of the sanctity of a mans home and the privacies of his life. I looked the form up online and balked at the intrusiveness of the question. I've read the Constitution now and I fail to find any foundation for anyone asking questions of this nature. Firm, clear refusal and don't even hint that you have any fear of their authority. I am going to avoid all traps and when it is time to have them finally come over I am going to do an international webcast and sing answers and slowly say, ohhhhh I don't know.let me think and sit there for 15 minutes for each question.everyone will know where I don't work, how much money I don't make and that I don't have plumbing and that I fart a lot That's the game the Nazi's started with in the 30's as did Stalin, with the knocks on the door and the spying on each other. Outrageous! Unfortunately, the second time my husband gave in, as he felt we would get fined and was tired of the threats. The name of my employer, my wages for the previous year, the number of exemptions for my house, my social security numbers as well as those of my dependents, my marital status. With two teen daughters, I don't want anyone having any extra information. Your results may vary but that was my experience. And as to the types of questions that can be asked, the only limit is that they can't be of a religious nature. He ignored the legality but admitted there were corporate sponsors involved. To posters 190 and 191: Thank you for your input and advice. I see a lot of people have more courage than me. Here are some ways you can verify an individual is a Census Bureau employee: For Census Bureau surveys, Census Bureau field representatives report to one of six Regional Offices across the country. They would have to take you to court, and they haven't done that EVER. For more information about completing a particular survey, you can search the Census Bureauslist of surveysand read more about what your options are for responding. No way was I going to submit that kind of info. Is the enemy offshore or some creep in a bloated Federal Dept we don't even need? The census guy showed up here. If you receive a survey or a letter in the mail from the Census Bureau, the envelope contains certain information that may help you verify its legitimacy. how Fourth amendment. Again, we refused and she threatened their fine. The threat is there because it works. We already did our duty and answered the regular census. Be advised that no matter how intensive your efforts become, nor what kind of fine, penalty, prosecution or imprisonment you may wish to threaten, I, as a free American citizen, will not allow any agency of this government to demand, under penalty of law, that I disclose private and personal information about the members of my household. The census taker left a note me a note today. I noticed a car pull up to my neighbor's house. Yeah right! Bunch of grumpy anti social loners. Who has my info now? so i will protect myself and my privacy and never give in just for the fact its my right!!!!!!!!! I told him if he was good at counting, he could try counting my angry rottweilers as he ran for his life. Has anyone ever been fined or penalized for not complying? Ha! If they knew what we made, why are they asking. We were hired to call people who did not respond and we left messages on answering machines. How can I verify that an email or text message from the Census Bureau is legitimate? Within Are You in a Survey? I even downloaded a sound bite that said this number has been disconnected and is no longer in service. Answer (1 of 5): Idk what the punishment is but I started filling it out. I ripped it up and threw it away. One of the reasons identified by Fort Carson that soldiers opted out of the vaccine is because it isn't FDA approved. D. oes anyone understand what is involved in managing 300 million people spread out over an entire continent, each thinking all that matters is their individual needs? And then I get this BS from a government agency? We do not have to fear picking up the phone or answering our door. Not about us - about adjoining property! Would I really be fined or imprisoned? The data bank, like any data bank, runs the risk of being hacked or accessed by dishonest parties. Would you believe they just called again? Do you think Cass Sunstein knowing how many people, of what age, have physical and emotional disabilities is for the benefit of your family? And, while it asks a lot of personal questions, your answers can help the government decide how to distribute hundreds . And send a Federal Marshal out to write you a ticket. Before acting on these general principles, you should hire a lawyer licensed to practice law in the jurisdiction to which your question pertains. You don't want your personal information in some library, online or in an archives someday do you? It does make an interesting snapshot of america. If you would like to broadcast your personal information, go for it. Now whenever we come home, Ms. Nosy Neighbor calls a different census worker who hurries over and tries to get us to answer the door. Since then, they have called three or four times and stopped by multiple times. Since then, I have received four phone calls from the US Census Bureau. Once on Saturday, once on Wednesday, three times yesterday, and so far once today. I personally do not want to answer because it's just a habit but if they did catch me off-guard, I would probably give them an answer of some sort (like I am a boyfriend who is watching my girlfriend's house while she's away with the peace corps for six months and that I already answered the census for my home a few blocks away). The Census Bureau can't issue a fine, they have to refer the case to the Dept. I hope it's not too late for us. This warning is clearly stated on the ACS envelope, and the form itself threatens a fine for people who refuse or willfully neglect to complete the survey. It's supposed to be confidential. Originally, I sent in the census form for the property stating zero occupants, then was called by a Census worker. Two days later, I was standing on my porch. The Census Bureau insists that personal information contained in these devices was protected by passwords and other security measures. They left before they arrived. Two weeks later, I received a second call from a different zip code with another lady asking if I still had the ACS form. What is the North American Industry Classification System? 12286: Don't worry, and don't respond. I guess it's too simple, or full of common sense. Lastly, if you are a proper pet owner, then you consider you dog, cat, etc. You can find no instance of someone being 'required' to respond, or being fined for not doing so. Somewhere in the process we got some messages on the answering machine asking us to call their 800 number and refer to our "case number." and these so called representatives. Lock and Load. The information that they collect will be used against us in our most crucial moments. Then the phone calls started. It's sent out to about 3.5 million households. For our government to function basic knowledge about the country as a whole, and individual states is required. It seems to me that *all* the information they need and want should be available to them from our 1040's. I could not believe my eyes! Then came the second one,it followed the first. The Census Bureau manages many surveys that study a variety of different entities including households, businesses, schools, hospitals, and more. They're not authorized to do that. I told them they were barking up the wrong tree and they need to follow the U.S. Now they called again and wanted to ask these questions over the phone. Just slam the phone or door on them. I was hot and told her I have her number and I will call when I'm ready. I am appalled by the questions asked on the ACS! I had missed several calls but the pattern seemed to be that I got them every other day. There is absolutely no possibility they can guarantee this information will not be disseminated to others or exposed to malevolent wrongdoers. The guy at FEMA said he needed my closing statement-I had sent that in but removed all the dollar amounts as that was none of their business. They came to my door at all hours. And, based on the Census, Virginia had 30 percent of the population of the United States. If they aren't paying my bills they don't have a need to know how much they are. She informed me if I did not answer her questions, eventually the county sheriff would come. Unfortunately it does not state that the number of people is the only thing allowed to be collected by the census. I found out on a different blog that the OMB# on the front of my ACS is expired. How can I verify that a mailing is legitimate and from the US Census Bureau? This city hasn't had its streets fixed in years and we always fill out the census. I can go on the internet and find more about you then anything the census is looking for. I will report her actions to our manager and possibly to her supervisor. Me and my family were properly counted on census day 2010. She said actually it's mandatory. I assumed I did it wrong, so I filled out the second one and sent that in. How many of our signers of the Declaration of Independence would fill out and sign THIS ACS form? That resulted in a letter from the director assuring me of privacy, etc. As a retired LEO, state law keeps all my info private, unless court ordered. Why am I being asked for my name? We should not have to fear such "power hungry, and commission-crazy animals! I replied I would answer no questions. I filled in only the number of adults and children and wrote a note on the form that this was the only information I would provide. My husband said he is going to start asking them the personal questions and leave it at that. Its as if this part of the government wants to create dirt on someone if they can find it! They can go to hell. She said they don't do that. How much is the regular monthly mortgage payment on this property? Make your own mind up as to what your world should be -- it's that simple. I'm contacting my congressman on this ACS issue today. He claims we need to answer the long form the ACS, etc. It's hard to believe that a patriotic, high school social studies teacher, and law-abiding citizen, such as myself, could be compelled to suggest such civil disobedience--but here I am, and hear me loud. Tuition and fees plus room and board for a four-year private college averaged $50,770 in the 2020-21 school year; at four-year, in-state public colleges, it was $22,180, according to the College . I put up with some minor harassment and then after a few weeks it stopped. Like many, I received the original short census form, completed it and mailed it back immediately. Don't touch them and if they do touch you, even slightly, fall down and don't get up until an ambulance arrives. Wound up yelling at anyone who would speak to me and finally the harassment stopped. This evidence should be used to justify resources to make improvements. Then, the phone calls started and they won't stop. The Census Bureau does surveys by mail, over the phone, in person, online or some combination of these. I was truthful in all 10 short form answers. I guarantee it will be a short and polite conversation and the last time they ever bother you! Perhaps the people who did not answer the questions do not want to end up like the Japanese Americans did during World War II when the census was used to track them down, and it took 50 years to find out about it! 1. The US Census Bureau did randomly select addresses across the country to receive the survey. Spending good taxpayer dollars on another social joke. For these reasons and likely more, the ACS has been said to be unanswered by about 45% of its recipients. You want me to put the popcorn in the freezer?" Nobody should answer the ACS survey. This is way too intrusive. Of course I would expect them to correct this oversight in the near future. "Only a few questions"? Follow-up can occur in-person, via mail, or by telephone. Thank you to this site and to all those who have posted comments about the survey. Active resistance is the order of the day. They can have my age, race, sex and opinion about corruption in government. She didn't have the common courtesy to disclose that little fact. What? On saturday he returned but I did not answer the door. Respondents like to know their voice is being heard, so it's important to follow up with them. of Commerce rep, and called on my cell phone. I asked who he was and he attempted to open the screen door. This ACS thing is quite detailed. If the IRS has no info on you, you're illegal anyway. I've received two of these obscene forms and I do not to answer any of the questions printed thereon. Its about an obnoxiously intrusive survey, based on a lie about fire stations and such, done in a not so anonymous manner, by people who are often temporary workers and thus lack accountability for the privacy of the information they take. I repeatedly told her that I gave the legal information I am required by law and that is how many people live here. At least they are working instead of collecting welfare checks. Those of you who are interested just might try at least the internet to find out what this is all about. Good luck everyone! Just remember that most of these people are decent people who need money to eat just like the rest of us, especially in these hard times. The US government already has all the information they need on people who file their annual income tax. Now I have people pestering my doorman for my information, pretending to be food deliverymen claiming that I ordered food - just so they can come up to my apartment --wow. I am with all of you that it is all wrong and will not return the form. I've been through it. He said, "I'll see what I can do." (address, city, county, state, zip). The state police will show up and *escort* them off your property. I would personally love to sit and watch hours of this kind of stuff. That's a load of crap. Three times they were soaked standing at my door. What the hell are you mad about? We've tossed two surveys in the recycle bin. What you'll need: A credit card. Asking for federal money or federal representation is a huge mistake. Well, as the creators of the slide at Fort Carson explained, neither are . Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. IE: IRS, DOT, Labor and Industry. The ACS purpose is to collect demographic data only. Emails from the Census Bureau are sent from the official @census.gov domain. They insisted that the ACS did not receive it and wanted the information again. Other countries pay equally and get that ever elusive socialist universal health care. BTW my survey went into the guinea pig cage, it will come out the same it went in: crap. Poster 235 is on to something: maybe my neighborhood can get a new school, a new hospital, and a new fire station. I am grateful for this siteI just got the survey in the mail and felt very intimidated into having to complete it.or else. Just answer those ten questions, and get on with your life! Good for Michele Bachmann for saying she wasn't filling this out. Public servants are just public burdens and every time their benefits cost more I have to pay for them and I don't even have any myself!!! The next day I got an e-mail saying that the "government guy" was OK with it and that I should return the form. I've heard rumors that they will send their people to relentlessly pound on my door for answers, and then start canvassing the neighborhood to find the answers to the questions that were on my form, about me. They're people just like you are, Americans just like you are. I have no problem filling out the main census form but not this BS. What are you all so worried about? They do NOT enforce noncompliance, because they know this survey is UNAmerican and UNConstitutional and would NOT stand up in a court of law against The People. Don't be afraid. I am sure that will go far. So keep your information private and don't give in. It is also known that the Bureau inadvertently posted sensitive information of over 300 innocent citizens. I received your American Community Survey some time ago, and shortly thereafter returned the survey, including only the information you are authorized to collect, and I am required to provide, per the requirements of Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, that is, the number of persons in our household, for the purposes of proper apportionment of our US Congressional representation. My caller id usually reads 'unavailable' or 'out of area'. I told her the story and said I didn't have time for this right now. this person got in the building somehow! I started to take the survey and the more I saw the more upset I got. i get home don't even get out of the parking lot, she pulls up. I get hourly calls during the week. You fill it out and keep it moving- we don't want to. Thanks, people, for your informative and oftentimes humorous posts here. I filled out my form, sent it in and a few weeks later another one came. I am not telling them anything. The Census Bureau conducts many other surveys that provide information about U.S. businesses and the economy, including the Services Annual Survey (SAS), Annual Retail Trade Survey (ARTS), and Annual Survey of Manufactures (ASM). In the end, the Census Bureau has the legal authority to conduct the survey and legally has the option of imposing fines for non-compliance. In addition to conducting the decennial census count, the Census Bureau oversees many surveys that are generally completed in-person, by mail, online, or by telephone. By their asking their questions (limited to how many people live here) you have "met" your legal obligation to the Census. Give me one reason I should trust my government. If they come and announce who they are, I'll simply start yelling, "Non parlo Inglese! I grabbed the handle and slammed the door shut. They want me to call an 800 number to give them my personal info. That's exactly the number printed on the lower right had corner of my ACS form. We filled in very basic info and did put in the drive times. Hard to believe they did not receive it or they lost it. You would have done well in the SS. Yet, he also said that the American Community Survey is continuing. Is that something you would want to get into the wrong hands? The BIG 2010 census count is coming soon. So glad I found this site. i love my country and its freedom and its up to us to keep the communism out!! I'm sorry you feel the need to spread such fear and lies. Quid pro quo," then slam the door in their face. How do I know my information is safe? I don't see what the big deal is. Waiting for their next move. The funny part is the local grocery store has this job post up. On Monday, a worker left a letter at my door advising he would return again. Why am I in the unlucky 2.5%? Well they stopped today. I was out in my yard and she was yelling at me from a distance. 67% of consumers and 74 % of business buyers say they'll pay more for a great experience. The information the government is requesting is violating our rights, whether or not it is written in the law. I am getting bothered by the census people now and what really annoys me to death is that I look all over the place and see all these people with basement apartments making tons of money off the books. I guess all the info requested I am OK with. Finally a man identifying himself as a supervisor came to the door and demanded I answer. If you can't see why many people have a problem with the ACS then I'll never be able to explain it to you. Just open the door, answer their questions, and they will forget about you and your insignificant existence for another 10 years. Being able to have the best information available in targeting a potential market based off this information is invaluable. All i have to do is tell some temporary worker my family's medical history, financial history, and of course, what time we can be burglarized (oops, I mean the time of day that we leave and come home from work). The Nazis were just doing their jobs, also, "anon75478" but that doesn't make it right. Well, our credit cards, social security numbers, and who knows what else, are now being used by illegal aliens and fraudulent companies. It has taken almost two decades to get it to this point where something intelligent can actually be done to manage our mess. The public also plays a role in the erosion of our judiciary. I bet some of the people who are so desperate for food and necessities in other countries would love to change places with you and they would probably be thrilled to answer a few questions. So get a clue, and if you are so upright and truthful, use your real name. Protect your privacy. No one from the Census has been escorted off your property by the police - Title 13 gives them the right to be on your property. We need to take our country back. Those of you who are posting "what's the big deal" need to start doing some research on your government and the shady things that go on at the taxpayers' cost. I felt like cursing this lady out! Three times they sent people to our door, and three times I walked out the back door, and turned on the water. So they bully and threaten and use fear to scare people into compliance. Census sends a letter saying that your address was selected for the ACS. A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States. In 2000 I refused to fill mine out. I may not bother with this anyway. A truly honest, upright government does not hire goons and bullies to do any work for them. As a result of widespread concern and perhaps out of frustration with the survey, several websites have been set up to provide public forums for recipients of the ACS. I just thought I would throw that out there! i respect my government and i am proud to be an american, but since when is it any of their business if i have a hot water heater or how far i travel to work? Does this person have difficulty doing errands alone such as doctor's visits or shopping? How am I supposed to know who these people are? Have no fear. I'm fed up with the ACS and all their nosing in my business. It is confined to determining the number of Representatives [in the House] and imposing direct Taxes among the several States. This questionnaire id just too personal and invasive of ones rights as a citizen in any country, let alone (supposedly) "The Land of the Free and The Brave" did Cheney, Bush, McCain, Obama fill one out? Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP). I worked as an enumerator for the 2000 Census. the simple census form I got had another insert in which they claim that "answers are confidential" and "answers you give cannot be obtained by law enforcement or tax collection agencies" and "your answers cannot be used in court" or obtained through a FOIA request. give me liberty, or give you death as the old saying goes! She stated that her supervisor sent her back out. The most aggressive "ally" nation caught spying on the United States is Israel. I'm so glad I'm not alone. Today another call demanding to know my name and telling me I would be fined. 1. An official website of the United States government. I received two surveys. Unfortunately, the guy probably already knew the answers to some of the questions. Came back the very next day, and told my husband that he has full authority to open it and if we don't comply then we will be fined anywhere from $100-5000, and the marshal would be accompanying him tomorrow to arrest my husband if we don't comply. There's comfort in knowing I'm not alone! Is there anything I can do about this? Today, the apparent supervisor came -- in his safety vest and green jeep like a public works person. I am proud to be an American, but not very proud of our government. Because this is a new data collection effort, the marital history items will be evaluated with other survey data and The results of the 2020 Census were released last summer following a series of delays due to the coronavirus pandemic. The efforts to secure a response to ACS seem fairly on the mark, but the point that seems most lost here is that households chosen for ACS are just part of a statistical sample that is representative of the country as a whole. (We filled out and mailed our census form as soon as we received it.) I have contacted all of my federal and state Representatives and it is time they passed a census privacy act. (ACS question number 33). consult the state boards of medicine and nursing about issues related to access to and the quality of anesthesia services in the state, determine that opting out is consistent with state law, and determine that opting out is in the best interests of the state's citizens. Government entities legally are not supposed to be able to get access to this information. I suppose if they have the info to redistrict, they have all the info they need. --JAS. Sad, but I simply do not trust the government anymore. A locked padlock I will not comply. Title 13, U.S.C., Section 131, directs the Census Bureau to conduct the economic census at 5-year intervals covering years ending in 2 and 7. How come I get the ACS? *Medical accuracy is not specifically outlined in state statue, rather it is required by the New Jersey Department of Education, Comprehensive Health and Physical Education Student Learning Standards. What I find interesting is that when I visit a home of an immigrant they are almost excited to give me whatever information I ask for. Have to love how the government pays people to harass you. This survey is intrusive and i will not answer it! Mind your own business. anon88369: Census enumerators have every right to walk onto your property if they are assigned to do a questionnaire for your address. A tactic that is used too frequently in our society as a means of control. In three weeks they should mail me a duplicate form. I never will. Why the hell should I tell the government all this business about me? we filled out the form the day it came and mailed it. I am currently working for the Census as an enumerator. And if said "enumerator" doesn't like it, tough! The name of a Census Bureau survey is provided in one or more of the following ways: Your household or business may be selected to participate in a survey. But I hit the brakes big time when they ask for your birthdate, among other garbage of race, sex, etc. I assume she was a supervisor. Well the federal government is functioning way beyond its legal powers and I will not feed that machine. This questionnaire asked how we got the funds to open the business, and how much money we spent to start up operation! How can I verify that an in-person interviewer is a Census Bureau employee? The Census Bureau will call, and then after the calls then they visit your home. I was not in a hurry since I already had done this once. I do not think I should have to give out that kind of information. She then stated that she has not talked to the supervisor. It also asked for the full names, DOB, SS# of all person including children. You are only required to do that once every ten years (in years that end in zero). We refused to give information on the cell phone several times. In order to function, the opt-out add-on must be able to load and execute properly on your browser. and gently close the door. The states collect the tax and turn the money over to the federal government. Only 8% do not want to work from home at any frequency. This government is OUT OF CONTROL! We have 273 people living in this house with no plumbing, I go to work at 2 a.m. and get home at 2:30. There are three general approaches to abortion care training: "opt out," in which training is routinely integrated into residency training but residents with religious or moral objections can opt out of participation; "opt in," in which training is available but not routinely scheduled; and programs in which no training is provided. The assertion by census workers that there is a simple fine of $5,000.00 for not providing the info is total crap! 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